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		<title>Twelve Small Injectors Instead of Six Big Ones</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Every big power build hits the same wall. You need enough injector to feed the engine at full noise, and the injector that does that is too big to idle&#8230;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/engine-management/twelve-small-injectors-instead-of-six-big-ones/">Twelve Small Injectors Instead of Six Big Ones</a> first appeared on <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk">BlownByTwins</a>.</p>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Every big power build hits the same wall. You need enough injector to feed the engine at full noise, and the injector that does that is too big to idle properly.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The usual answer is to accept it. Fit the 2000cc units, put up with a lumpy idle and a car that hunts in traffic, and tell yourself it&#8217;s the price of the power.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It isn&#8217;t. Here&#8217;s what I did instead, and the arithmetic behind it.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Configuration</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Status: Verified</strong></p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>2JZ-GTE VVTi, 3,353 cc, 1,114 whp on E85</li>



<li>Plazmaman intake manifold, twelve injector provision</li>



<li>Twelve CP1000 injectors, rated 1,000 cc at 3 bar</li>



<li>Aeromotive regulator, 4 bar static, 1:1 rising rate</li>



<li>Three Walbro 485 pumps, -10 feed lines</li>



<li><a href="https://emtron.world/products/kv12">Emtron KV12</a>, twelve dedicated injection channels, flex fuel</li>
</ul>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The problem is minimum pulse width, not flow</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">An injector is a solenoid valve. It takes a finite time to open and a finite time to close, and during those transitions the flow through it is neither zero nor fully open. It is somewhere in between, and it is not linear.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Above a certain pulse width, the opening and closing transitions are a small fraction of the total and the injector behaves predictably. Below it, the transitions dominate. Two commands a fraction of a millisecond apart can deliver very different amounts of fuel, and the relationship stops being something you can characterise reliably.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s the minimum controllable pulse width, and it&#8217;s roughly a property of the injector rather than of how much fuel you&#8217;re asking for. A big injector doesn&#8217;t take proportionally longer to open. It just moves more fuel while it does.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Which is why big injectors idle badly. At idle you need a very small mass of fuel. With a big injector, that mass corresponds to a pulse width down in the region where the injector is unpredictable. The ECU asks for the same thing twice and gets two different answers. That&#8217;s your lumpy idle, and no amount of tuning fixes it, because the hardware isn&#8217;t repeatable down there.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Twelve small ones instead of six big ones</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Plazmaman manifold takes twelve injectors, two per cylinder. Six primaries and six secondaries, each addressed individually on its own channel by the KV12.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">At idle, around town, and at any low load, only the primaries fire. Six injectors, each a 1000cc unit, sharing the same small fuel demand a set of six would normally handle. Pulse widths sit in the region where a 1000cc injector is well behaved.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When load arrives, the secondaries stage in and the full twelve are working.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So you get the idle characteristics of a 1000cc injector and the flow of something more than twice the size. That&#8217;s the whole idea, and it costs you nothing except a manifold that takes twelve injectors and an ECU with twelve output channels.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The arithmetic, including the bit people get wrong</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The injectors are rated 1,000 cc. They are not flowing 1,000 cc.</p>



<figure class="bbt-figure" style="margin:1.8rem 0"><title id="injflow-title">Injector flow against rail pressure</title>Flow rises with the square root of rail pressure. An injector rated 1,000 cc per minute at 3 bar delivers 1,155 cc at 4 bar, not the 1,333 cc a linear assumption would predict.05001,0001,5002,0002,50012345678Rated3 bar, 1,000 ccInstalled4 bar, 1,155 ccThe linear guesswould say 1,333 ccRail pressure, barFlow, cc per minuteInjector flow against rail pressureActual, square root of pressureWhat most people assume<figcaption class="bbt-table-note" style="font-size:0.8rem;color:#5f5f5f;line-height:1.5;margin:0.6rem 0 0">Flow scales with the square root of the pressure differential. A 33 percent pressure increase buys 15 percent more flow, not 33.</figcaption></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Injector flow scales with the square root of the pressure differential across it. Rated at 3 bar, run at 4 bar:</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>flow = rated_flow × √(actual_pressure / rated_pressure)
     = 1000 × √(4 / 3)
     = 1000 × 1.1547
     = 1,155 cc</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Twelve of those is <strong>roughly 13,900 cc/min installed</strong>, which is the equivalent of six 2,300 cc injectors.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That square root matters more than it looks. It cuts both ways: raising fuel pressure buys you less flow than you&#8217;d expect, and dropping it costs you less than you&#8217;d fear. A 33 percent pressure increase gave 15 percent more flow.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It also means anyone sizing injectors off the rated figure without checking their base pressure is working from the wrong number.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Why the regulator has to be rising rate</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What actually drives flow is the pressure <em>differential</em> across the injector: rail pressure minus manifold pressure.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">With a fixed 4 bar rail and 2.8 bar of boost in the manifold, that differential collapses to 1.2 bar at peak. Flow would fall to roughly 55 percent of what the ECU thinks it&#8217;s getting, at exactly the moment the engine needs the most fuel.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A 1:1 rising rate regulator references manifold pressure and raises rail pressure to match, so the differential stays at 4 bar whatever the boost is doing. At 2.8 bar of boost that means roughly 6.8 bar of absolute rail pressure.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Which is what the three pumps are for. Walbro 485s at 6.8 bar are working considerably harder than the same pumps at 3 bar, and their flow falls off as pressure rises. Fuel pressure has been confirmed to hold through full load E85 pulls, and the third pump exists for exactly that margin.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">A headroom check</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Status: Working conclusion</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Rough demand at 1,114 whp on E85, assuming a brake specific fuel consumption around 0.66 lb/hp/hr and a nominal drivetrain loss, lands somewhere near 8,400 cc/min.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Against 13,900 cc/min installed, that&#8217;s roughly 60 percent duty at peak power.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Both of those assumptions are mine rather than measured, so treat it as a sanity check rather than a specification. But the shape of the answer is right: there is real headroom, which is what you want on a car that has to survive being driven rather than just surviving a dyno pull.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What this costs</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It isn&#8217;t free.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Twelve injectors means twelve to buy, twelve to wire, and twelve output channels on the ECU. Not every standalone has them, and a manifold with secondary injector provision is a specific purchase rather than a generic one.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There is also a calibration cost. The handover between primary only and both sets firing has to be blended properly, or you get a step in fuelling at the transition. That is real work and it is work a single stage setup doesn&#8217;t need.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Whether it&#8217;s worth it depends entirely on what the car is for. If it lives on a dyno and does quarter miles, fit six big ones and don&#8217;t think about it. If it has to sit in traffic on the way to Scotland and then do something violent when it gets there, the staging is the difference between a car you drive and a car you tolerate.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>This fuel system is what makes 2.8 bar on E85 possible in the first place. What that boost is actually worth, and how much of it is the fuel rather than the pressure, is covered in <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/?p=1107">What E85 Actually Buys</a>. Full specification is on the <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/toyota-supra-mk4-delta/">Supra project page</a>, and the build itself is in <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/?p=1032">The 3.4 Stroker Build</a>.</em></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you&#8217;ve run a staged setup and measured where the handover actually lands in your fuel trims, I&#8217;d be interested. That transition is the part I know least about and it&#8217;s where I&#8217;d expect the problems to live.</p><p>The post <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/engine-management/twelve-small-injectors-instead-of-six-big-ones/">Twelve Small Injectors Instead of Six Big Ones</a> first appeared on <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk">BlownByTwins</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
		
		
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2023 13:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>As everyone who knows me knows, I won the R34 GTR from 7 Days Performance. I&#8217;ve made no attempt to hide that, and actively promote the 7 Days Performance team,&#8230;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/previous-cars/r34gtr/the-r34-gtr-upgrade-path/">The R34 GTR Upgrade Path</a> first appeared on <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk">BlownByTwins</a>.</p>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As everyone who knows me knows, I won the R34 GTR from <a href="https://7daysperformance.co.uk/draw-result/john-gaskell-won-this-nissan-skyline-r34-gtr-1-000" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">7 Days Performance</a>. I&#8217;ve made no attempt to hide that, and actively promote the <a href="https://7daysperformance.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">7 Days Performance</a> team, despite what some people say &#8211; <em>haters gonna hate</em>, right?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Anyways, the time has come to make this car my own, put my stamp on it. Make it period correct, but also improve it and make it more modern where appropriate, right? </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Parts going in &#8230;</p>



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<li><a href="https://www.6boost.co.uk/6boost-rb26-manifold-garrett-vband-50mm-r32-r33-r34-gtr.html">6boost</a> manifold</li>



<li><a href="https://www.pulsarturbouk.com/product-page/pulsar-psr5855g-30-770">G30-770</a> with T51R mod</li>



<li><a href="https://www.pulsarturbouk.com/product-page/50mm-new-gen-wastegate">50mm wastegate</a></li>



<li><a href="http://injectordynamics.com/injectors/id1050-xds/">ID1050x</a> injectors</li>



<li>Tomei Poncams</li>



<li><a href="https://sfsperformance.co.uk/">SFS Performance</a> Hoses</li>



<li><a href="https://www.opieoils.co.uk/">Fluids and Filters</a></li>



<li>Tomei baffles for the sump</li>



<li><a href="https://www.nitto.com.au/products/RB-Head-Oil-Drains-p356006764" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Head drain</a> kit</li>
</ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What will this give me? Well first off, it&#8217;s not <em>more</em> power, but it is more available power. The HKS Twins are amazing when they&#8217;re on boost, but coming out of a slow 2nd gear corner, they feel like they take 3-5 business days to spool. 2000rpm to 5000rpm with little to no boost before they hit is a long time. </p>


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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/cars/r34gtr/the-g30-770/">G30-770</a> should be bulding some boost at 2500, and have reasonable boost by 3500 and full boost by 4000-4200rpm (the dyno will see how far out my man-maths is!), so I&#8217;ll have more power accessible in more places, but no additional peak power. Or, for those who know, I&#8217;m gaining torque.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What else? Well, noise. Anyone who&#8217;s heard a T51R turbo will know about the whistle, it was synonymous with big singles in the 2000s. And that&#8217;s what this car is. A 1990s-2000s monster. Reponse and noise, that&#8217;s two good improvements. What else? Fuelling. The injectors in the car now are fine, but old. They&#8217;re based on the 1990s-2000s tech, and injectors have moved on so much since. Listen to this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHat5Mjnic" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">podcast</a> from <a href="https://www.hpacademy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">High Performance Academy</a> on just how much they&#8217;ve changed in the recent years.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">CAMS! Every engine needs to breathe better, right? These <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/cars/r34gtr/poncams-camshaft-upgrade/">Tomei Poncams</a> are drop in replacements, meaning they don&#8217;t need any machining to upgrades. They&#8217;ll allow more air in, which means more fuel, meaning more power. But how? They have more duration and more lift. Boiling it down, more lift means it&#8217;ll open the valve more, meaning more air gets in, meaning more torque. More duration means it&#8217;ll open more. Meaning that that it&#8217;ll breathe better in the top end. Given the 260 duration, it won&#8217;t affect low end much, if at all, but the turbo replacement will more than make up for that.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The <a href="https://sfsperformance.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SFS Performance</a> hoses are a mainteance replacement. The OEM hoses on the car are aging now and can become brittle, so why not replace them and not only improve the look but also reduce the risk!? Right? Oh, and naturally, I&#8217;ve gone for blue.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What are baffles? Well, the RB26 suffers from <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/cars/r34gtr/which-engine-rb26-or-vr38/">oil surge</a>. I can happily rev the car in 4th gear from 2000-7750rpm and the oil pressure will increase to about 5.5bar. Do that in 2nd gear and the increased G force will drop that to 3bar. Not terrible, but not great either. And whilst we are doing all this, we&#8217;ll get the baffles in the sump to prevent that and help the oil stay near the pick up.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.nitto.com.au/products/RB-Head-Oil-Drains-p356006764" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Head drain</a>? What&#8217;s that.  The RB26 has an all too common issue of excessive oil build up in the head area. This problem is especially evident when the engine has a high volume oil pump installed, I won&#8217;t yet, but I&#8217;d like to be safe and help the engine breathe anyway. Whether you look at this as an oil drain or crankcase pressure relief system, there is no doubt that it is a highly beneficial product on any RB. I&#8217;ll have that returned to the sump.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I could be talking absolute gumf here, but once it&#8217;s been on the dyno, I&#8217;ll report back and we&#8217;ll see. Hoping for some power between 2500-4000&#8230; Excited!</p><p>The post <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk/previous-cars/r34gtr/the-r34-gtr-upgrade-path/">The R34 GTR Upgrade Path</a> first appeared on <a href="https://blownbytwins.co.uk">BlownByTwins</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
		
		
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